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I guess I'm just a downer for everyone...

Because I just read a post from a Yahoo Cubs baseball group that I'm on that I know, in my heart of hearts was aimed at me. Just because I don't see a rosy future for the team I'm criticized for being realistic in stating that there is no chance in H*** that the Cubs will become any better than a last place team.

Then on SA, I get accused of misreading a post that is definitely aimed towards one member and for making someone else look petty. It was just my interpretation of the post -- I by no means meant to make anyone look petty, although it was a rather petty concern in the grand scheme of things. It all had to do with posting stories in parts and the fact that if you post that the story is going to be...say, 5 parts and you post 1/5, 2/5, 3/5, and then post 4a/5, 4b/5, etc. then there's no clear end to the story. But there is, as the author has stated 5 parts, no matter how many detours it takes along the way to get to five. This is opposed to posting 1/?, which I see as open-ended, with no clear end in sight. But, what the fuck do I know anyway? I think I stick to lurking on Yahoo groups and keep my opinions to myself, since they obviously don't jive with the mainstream.

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enkiduts
Nov. 15th, 2006 06:54 pm (UTC)
Hey Debbie,

Don't lose heart. That is giving the gripers too much of a victory. You have as much a right to state your opinion on any group you are on as anyone else does.

Trouble is that too often, in groups and LJs that people get a bad case of "big fish, little pond" itis and make out like they are the only ones that have a right to speak for the group.

The Cubs probably never will be more than a last place team. Nothing wrong with that, someone has to be there, and I thought we all liked to root for the underdog. Someone doesn't like you being realistic in your opinions--tough!!

Ditto SA--which is a list that isn't supposed to really be for "works in progress" but for finished stories. Your idea to have a 1/? instead of 1/5 when it really is going to take 1/15 was a good one. Considering the prounouncements I used to see on that list from people who have set themselves up as "authorities" on what must be, your suggestion was not only cogent but should be part of list rules to begin with.

Hang in there. Don't give know it alls the satisfaction of keeping you quiet!! Go get em tiger, and let the chips fall where they may.

debbiet
Nov. 15th, 2006 07:00 pm (UTC)
Thanks! It just seemed like it was all coming down on me at once and I felt this was probably the best place to vent it out -- hoping no one would see it, but realizing at the same time, it was very possible. It just seems like it is all getting to be too much sometimes and I need a break from it all before I explode.

But, enough of my ranting!

Thank you again for the kind words.
enkiduts
Nov. 16th, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)
Breaks are good and healing. Just DON'T let a bunch of full of themselves idiots drive you away from what you love!

Feel free to rant!
debbiet
Nov. 15th, 2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
An addition
It just seems like lately, there are more people on SA that think they are "the authorities" whereas they have no status whatsoever, from what I can see.

Okay, I'll shut up now.
tommyboybbi
Nov. 15th, 2006 07:11 pm (UTC)
Don't feel bad, I posted to that SA posting too.

I was a bit miffed at the post and had to add my two cents worth.

I can see why for a number of reasons of doing the 4a or 4b. It's the posters problem of not being flexible.

This is for sharing, not pointing out nit picks.

And people wonder why people don't post.
debbiet
Nov. 15th, 2006 08:20 pm (UTC)
Well, I have definitely learned MY lesson. It didn't help that it was 4-something in the morning when I answered the post. And that was after Helen had already responded and I was more responding to what Helen said and it was taken like I was attacking the original poster. She should have known that no good would come out of posting something like that.

It's things like this that make me want to leave the fandom completely.
jessriley
Nov. 15th, 2006 08:19 pm (UTC)
Sorry you're feeling down, but just remember that you have as much right to say what you feel on lists or LJ's as anyone else. I haven't been a member of SA for quite some time, so I can't comment on your post, but I do often get the feeling that quite a few lists are dominated by just a few. I'm guilty of lurking for that reason as well. Sometimes it's just easier to stay out of trouble ... but then again! :0)
debbiet
Nov. 15th, 2006 08:30 pm (UTC)
Well, I definitely didn't mean to cause any trouble, as anyone who knows me would attest to, but apparently, just like Blair, trouble found me :) I think I've gotten the rant out of my system now and hopefully, things will quickly die down. If not...who knows?

Thanks for the comments, Jess.
jessriley
Nov. 15th, 2006 08:42 pm (UTC)
I think I've gotten the rant out of my system now and hopefully, things will quickly die down. If not...who knows?

That's why I love LJ. You can rant to your hearts content and it does make you feel better to get things off your chest.

(Plus you can't get moderated - Hee!)
cd_lind
Nov. 15th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)
I didn't say anything on SA because I just don't post much anymore, and I don't read much of the fic posted. I do agree with you that 5a, 6b, /c etc of, let's say, 7 parts doesn't mean there are more parts. Well, techically there are, but the story is still a whole. And the reason for the a, b, c stuff is plain old netiquette to those whose systems makes too big posts into attachments. I happen to think it's a good rule of thumb.

I've been asking people to please send LOCs offlist for about 5 years now, but to no avail. Heck, even when I state *Feedback OFFLIST ONLY, please* there are a few who go ahead and post on the list anyway, and it really, really annoys me.

I really don't know why I'm on the list anymore, as I haven't written any real TS in years...but it was my second mailinglist I got friends from, so it's very hard to let go....
debbiet
Nov. 17th, 2006 03:17 am (UTC)
I just felt I had to rant somewhere and I figured I could do it here, away from most of the SA group.

And it baffles me why people sent you LOCS onlist when you clearly state (in several places no less!) to send them offlist. It's like people can't read or they just gloss over that part.

It is hard to let go of a list when you have friends there. And for the most part, it is still a great group of people. It's just that sometimes... ::shakes head::

Thank you for your comments!
cd_lind
Nov. 19th, 2006 08:00 pm (UTC)
I just felt I had to rant somewhere and I figured I could do it here, away from most of the SA group.
*nods*

And it baffles me why people sent you LOCS onlist when you clearly state (in several places no less!) to send them offlist. It's like people can't read or they just gloss over that part.
It's so annoying!!!

It is hard to let go of a list when you have friends there. And for the most part, it is still a great group of people. It's just that sometimes... ::shakes head::
Uh-huh. I hear that. *g*
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